I might be wrong though, if you have a good relationship with your Dev team, contact them and ask them what is going on.","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:readyapi-questions"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:40004"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"PaulDonny"},"postTime":"2014-03-24T05:10:36.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":0}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuNHwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXwy","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":40014,"body":"Thanks for the reply Paul.
Yes , we (both QA & Dev team) agree it is almost certainly not soapUI. That's why I posted in the general forum. Was hoping someone might have insight into why the webservices are building the response according to some lexical ordering instead of following the xsd sequence ...
hopefully something along the lines of 'with the new xyz library that comes with the new Weblogic server you have to configure the foo switch ' or something
As far as we can tell, our webservices code has not changed, nor has our soapUI version or test projects.","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:readyapi-questions"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:40004"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"tstmartin"},"postTime":"2014-03-24T06:18:49.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":0}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuNHwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXwz","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":40019,"body":"From the way it looks, it was always sorted alphabetically and the new Weblogic Version treats alphabetically differently. The first request is in an absolute alphabetical order ignoring case and the new one does not ignore case. This seems like an issue in the code and ultimately is a defect.
This most likely has to deal with Java EE 5 vs Java EE 6, though there is many different possible things that could cause this.","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:readyapi-questions"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:40004"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"PaulDonny"},"postTime":"2014-03-24T06:41:26.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":0}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuNHwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXw0","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":40024,"body":"Thanks Paul!
Good insight about always having been alphabetic, one we overlooked since our xsd is ordered the same way. But that got me thinking about order and case, and made me realize another difference between what used to work and what doesn't now.
The previous setup (working) was running on Unix; for lack of servers, the current version setup (failing) is installed on Windows 7.
Possibly significant information that I neglected to include - my bad!
Anyway, the OS difference gives us something else to look at. I'll be back when we know more.
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Apologies I dont have the time or understanding to post a better explanation; hopefully there are enough clues there to help the next person who hits this.
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WS response elements alphabetized - fails xsd validation","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:40009"},"body":"This sounds like an issue within the code itself, nothing to do with SoapUI. If it is causing errors and issues, I would recommend a defect be filed and assigned to your Development team in order to fix the issue.
I might be wrong though, if you have a good relationship with your Dev team, contact them and ask them what is going on.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-24T05:10:36.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-24T05:10:36.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1352},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:40014":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:40014","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:40014":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:43261"},"id":"message:40014","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:ready_api_forums/community:nwkab66374board:readyapi-questions/message:40004/message:40014","revisionNum":1,"uid":40014,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:readyapi-questions"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:40004"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:40004"},"subject":"Re: WS response elements alphabetized - fails xsd validation","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:40014"},"body":"Thanks for the reply Paul.
Yes , we (both QA & Dev team) agree it is almost certainly not soapUI. That's why I posted in the general forum. Was hoping someone might have insight into why the webservices are building the response according to some lexical ordering instead of following the xsd sequence ...
hopefully something along the lines of 'with the new xyz library that comes with the new Weblogic server you have to configure the foo switch ' or something
As far as we can tell, our webservices code has not changed, nor has our soapUI version or test projects.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"207","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-24T06:18:49.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-24T06:18:49.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1354},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:40019":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:40019","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:40019":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:22958"},"id":"message:40019","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:ready_api_forums/community:nwkab66374board:readyapi-questions/message:40004/message:40019","revisionNum":1,"uid":40019,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:readyapi-questions"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:40004"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:40004"},"subject":"Re: WS response elements alphabetized - fails xsd validation","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:40019"},"body":"From the way it looks, it was always sorted alphabetically and the new Weblogic Version treats alphabetically differently. The first request is in an absolute alphabetical order ignoring case and the new one does not ignore case. This seems like an issue in the code and ultimately is a defect.
This most likely has to deal with Java EE 5 vs Java EE 6, though there is many different possible things that could cause this.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-24T06:41:26.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-24T06:41:26.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1353},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:40024":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:40024","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:40024":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:43261"},"id":"message:40024","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:ready_api_forums/community:nwkab66374board:readyapi-questions/message:40004/message:40024","revisionNum":1,"uid":40024,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:readyapi-questions"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:40004"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:40004"},"subject":"Re: WS response elements alphabetized - fails xsd validation","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:40024"},"body":"Thanks Paul!
Good insight about always having been alphabetic, one we overlooked since our xsd is ordered the same way. But that got me thinking about order and case, and made me realize another difference between what used to work and what doesn't now.
The previous setup (working) was running on Unix; for lack of servers, the current version setup (failing) is installed on Windows 7.
Possibly significant information that I neglected to include - my bad!
Anyway, the OS difference gives us something else to look at. I'll be back when we know more.
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Apologies I dont have the time or understanding to post a better explanation; hopefully there are enough clues there to help the next person who hits this.
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